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	<title>Comments on: Why not to study Chinese at university</title>
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	<description>by Ryan McLaughlin ~ The Humanaught</description>
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		<title>By: Lawal</title>
		<link>http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/general/why-not-to-study-chinese-at-university/#comment-27973</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey - just catchin up 3 years later... after the post i mean. I&#039;m in the process of applying to Xian Jiaotong-Liverpool University, Hoping to start in March. I&#039;m thinking of doing 4 extra hours private tuition a week, have any idea the going rate per hour? Just a years worth of studying for me and then slow but steady, self learn to improve. Cant wait to go to Suzhou. So its nice to come across your site for a peek and an insight into the soon to be home for the entirety of 2010. By the way, howz your level of Chinese after all these years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8211; just catchin up 3 years later&#8230; after the post i mean. I&#8217;m in the process of applying to Xian Jiaotong-Liverpool University, Hoping to start in March. I&#8217;m thinking of doing 4 extra hours private tuition a week, have any idea the going rate per hour? Just a years worth of studying for me and then slow but steady, self learn to improve. Cant wait to go to Suzhou. So its nice to come across your site for a peek and an insight into the soon to be home for the entirety of 2010. By the way, howz your level of Chinese after all these years?</p>
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		<title>By: Frightend Foreigner</title>
		<link>http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/general/why-not-to-study-chinese-at-university/#comment-27261</link>
		<dc:creator>Frightend Foreigner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh God! I had hoped for soemthing remotely positive when I found this blog, then we Americans are known for being spoilt at home and complaining if things dont suit us when we go abroad. But yo bro. You&#039;re the bomb. How brave , how bold, how great art thou for hanging in there like a tru trooper. This makes me proud to be American. Good luck to you man. The world needs more of ya. Dont punish youre self no longer. You done your time, get out and have some fun. How crazy are those babes for American men? Gimme five , gimme me a ni hen mei that&#039;s all you need to say buddy. Love ya all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh God! I had hoped for soemthing remotely positive when I found this blog, then we Americans are known for being spoilt at home and complaining if things dont suit us when we go abroad. But yo bro. You&#8217;re the bomb. How brave , how bold, how great art thou for hanging in there like a tru trooper. This makes me proud to be American. Good luck to you man. The world needs more of ya. Dont punish youre self no longer. You done your time, get out and have some fun. How crazy are those babes for American men? Gimme five , gimme me a ni hen mei that&#8217;s all you need to say buddy. Love ya all.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/general/why-not-to-study-chinese-at-university/#comment-26986</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 02:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nikou - wow, only once with the tape eh? That sounds like some tough love from your teacher - but I&#039;m sure it&#039;ll pay off in the end.

Lately I&#039;ve been studying on my own - using a site called http://smart.fm that is great for memorizing characters. It&#039;s helping my reading quite a lot. I think that a multi-pronged attack is best with Chinese. Find the best tools for each individual area - something for reading, writing, speaking and listening. And then just dive in.

That 5-year min. stat gives me some confidence! Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nikou &#8211; wow, only once with the tape eh? That sounds like some tough love from your teacher &#8211; but I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;ll pay off in the end.</p>
<p>Lately I&#8217;ve been studying on my own &#8211; using a site called <a href="http://smart.fm" rel="nofollow">http://smart.fm</a> that is great for memorizing characters. It&#8217;s helping my reading quite a lot. I think that a multi-pronged attack is best with Chinese. Find the best tools for each individual area &#8211; something for reading, writing, speaking and listening. And then just dive in.</p>
<p>That 5-year min. stat gives me some confidence! Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Nikou</title>
		<link>http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/general/why-not-to-study-chinese-at-university/#comment-26985</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post. I also have the same dilemma. But for me, my listening is so-so but my reading comprehension is pretty good. I don&#039;t memorize the characters but I just have the basic idea what the text is about. But I do suck at my Listening Classes because the policy of my teacher is to play the questions-tape only once. (a preparation for HSK)

When I listen to ChinesePod, I can catch up even the Upper Intermediate Level.

Anyway, good luck to us. I do study in the University too. I think, it just takes more patience. Don&#039;t give up. As they say, mastering a language takes more than 5 years minimum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post. I also have the same dilemma. But for me, my listening is so-so but my reading comprehension is pretty good. I don&#8217;t memorize the characters but I just have the basic idea what the text is about. But I do suck at my Listening Classes because the policy of my teacher is to play the questions-tape only once. (a preparation for HSK)</p>
<p>When I listen to ChinesePod, I can catch up even the Upper Intermediate Level.</p>
<p>Anyway, good luck to us. I do study in the University too. I think, it just takes more patience. Don&#8217;t give up. As they say, mastering a language takes more than 5 years minimum.</p>
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		<title>By: Study Chinese in China</title>
		<link>http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/general/why-not-to-study-chinese-at-university/#comment-26623</link>
		<dc:creator>Study Chinese in China</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 05:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may be that such things are happening with you. But There are many Schools or you can say institutes that are providing stress free environment to students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be that such things are happening with you. But There are many Schools or you can say institutes that are providing stress free environment to students.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristof</title>
		<link>http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/general/why-not-to-study-chinese-at-university/#comment-26166</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like your blog...

Anyways, there is a usefull resource on the net where you can find an exchange partner to study a language. The concept is simple : while you teach your peer in China (or elsewhere) your mothertongue, you can learn the native language from your language-partner. Check out the webiste : &lt;a href=&quot;http://study-chinese-online.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Learn Chinese Language with Language Exchange&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like your blog&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyways, there is a usefull resource on the net where you can find an exchange partner to study a language. The concept is simple : while you teach your peer in China (or elsewhere) your mothertongue, you can learn the native language from your language-partner. Check out the webiste : <a href="http://study-chinese-online.com" rel="nofollow">Learn Chinese Language with Language Exchange</a></p>
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		<title>By: NinaBonita</title>
		<link>http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/general/why-not-to-study-chinese-at-university/#comment-25609</link>
		<dc:creator>NinaBonita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi Ryan!

i just came across your post, and i can so relate to your situation. i was enrolled at Suzhou University last spring semester and really it was hard. Being an asian didn&#039;t help much cause i am from the southeast. although the class was rewarding as oppose to the private classes i&#039;ve had before. i was in a class where most of my classmates are westerners and southeast asians too. we did have korean classmates which still balances the learning process. 
Like you my spoken chinese is fairly well and so as my comprehension, but then again writing and reading the characters is really such a pain. We&#039;ve had plenty exchange students through the semester all had been learning the language for a year or more, surprisingly though they can&#039;t read much of the characters as compared to us who just started the course. The fact that i speak, read and understand chinese after a semester, is already a big motivation for me to enroll this fall. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi Ryan!</p>
<p>i just came across your post, and i can so relate to your situation. i was enrolled at Suzhou University last spring semester and really it was hard. Being an asian didn&#8217;t help much cause i am from the southeast. although the class was rewarding as oppose to the private classes i&#8217;ve had before. i was in a class where most of my classmates are westerners and southeast asians too. we did have korean classmates which still balances the learning process.<br />
Like you my spoken chinese is fairly well and so as my comprehension, but then again writing and reading the characters is really such a pain. We&#8217;ve had plenty exchange students through the semester all had been learning the language for a year or more, surprisingly though they can&#8217;t read much of the characters as compared to us who just started the course. The fact that i speak, read and understand chinese after a semester, is already a big motivation for me to enroll this fall. <img src='http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Alpart</title>
		<link>http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/general/why-not-to-study-chinese-at-university/#comment-25552</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Alpart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Private classes, and particularly tutors or self-study, are so incredibly easy to skip out on. Chinese university, whether because I so quickly fall behind, or because I have some ingrained fear of truancy, forces me to attend and has caused me to learn more Chinese in a month and a half than I have in near the entire three years I’ve been in China.&quot;

Isn&#039;t this what you want? I just graduated with a Chinese degree and you really have to study your ass off.  If you really want to learn Chinese, learning 150 new characters is normal and is what I did for three years. Yes, some, if not many, if not most of them slip away right after those quizzes, but you will be surprised how many of them end up sticking, even if they all don&#039;t. Chinese is a difficult language and you have to accept the reality of the study time if you want to learn it. It is completely different from English. The fact that other Asian students have the Kanji advantage should motivate you if you are serious about knowing Chinese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Private classes, and particularly tutors or self-study, are so incredibly easy to skip out on. Chinese university, whether because I so quickly fall behind, or because I have some ingrained fear of truancy, forces me to attend and has caused me to learn more Chinese in a month and a half than I have in near the entire three years I’ve been in China.&#8221;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t this what you want? I just graduated with a Chinese degree and you really have to study your ass off.  If you really want to learn Chinese, learning 150 new characters is normal and is what I did for three years. Yes, some, if not many, if not most of them slip away right after those quizzes, but you will be surprised how many of them end up sticking, even if they all don&#8217;t. Chinese is a difficult language and you have to accept the reality of the study time if you want to learn it. It is completely different from English. The fact that other Asian students have the Kanji advantage should motivate you if you are serious about knowing Chinese.</p>
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		<title>By: Why to learn Chinese at a University &#124; Junjie's China blog</title>
		<link>http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/general/why-not-to-study-chinese-at-university/#comment-25528</link>
		<dc:creator>Why to learn Chinese at a University &#124; Junjie's China blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] just stumbled upon a post on the humanaught blog. He is talking about why it&#8217;s no good idea to learn Chinese at an university in China. His main argument is, that there are plenty of Japanese and Korean students, who already got the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] just stumbled upon a post on the humanaught blog. He is talking about why it&#8217;s no good idea to learn Chinese at an university in China. His main argument is, that there are plenty of Japanese and Korean students, who already got the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
		<link>http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/general/why-not-to-study-chinese-at-university/#comment-24936</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to read your statement, I sent this out to my daughter, and I hope we can come out something, I wonder I can lend some help because I was a junior high Chinese language teacher, I don&#039;t know how the system go, but there are 540 main character to start with, all the rest of Chinese character were evolved from these 540 characters</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to read your statement, I sent this out to my daughter, and I hope we can come out something, I wonder I can lend some help because I was a junior high Chinese language teacher, I don&#8217;t know how the system go, but there are 540 main character to start with, all the rest of Chinese character were evolved from these 540 characters</p>
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