Comments on: Shanghai Daily-late and dollar short http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/general/shanghai-daily-late-and-dollar-short/ by Ryan McLaughlin ~ The Humanaught Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:48:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Optima Pet Food Saga: Media’s double-edged sword | A China Blog on Suzhou Expat Life | The Humanaught http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/general/shanghai-daily-late-and-dollar-short/#comment-26617 Optima Pet Food Saga: Media’s double-edged sword | A China Blog on Suzhou Expat Life | The Humanaught Sat, 17 Jan 2009 03:37:44 +0000 http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/?p=1182#comment-26617 [...] Google’s news channel. For weeks there wasn’t a peep, but then suddenly (just after the Shanghai Daily piece) it lit up and I began receiving several notices a [...] [...] Google’s news channel. For weeks there wasn’t a peep, but then suddenly (just after the Shanghai Daily piece) it lit up and I began receiving several notices a [...]

]]> By: Carrol Clark-Seattle, WA http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/general/shanghai-daily-late-and-dollar-short/#comment-26615 Carrol Clark-Seattle, WA Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:16:49 +0000 http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/?p=1182#comment-26615 How so very sad to loose a loved one..as my husband and I just lost our lab/newfoundland mix, Tonka, in October to cancer. And they are our 'children', a part of our lives, a part of our soul. How blessed Addie was to have such beautiful and caring parents in her world. I hope you continue your quest in securing the answers to your questions - and yes, though it cannot take away your pain, your loss - it gains the 'principle right' of ensuring it WILL NOT happen to others and corporations have to owe up to what they have produced. Take care and keep posting what info you find. How so very sad to loose a loved one..as my husband and I just lost our lab/newfoundland mix, Tonka, in October to cancer. And they are our ‘children’, a part of our lives, a part of our soul. How blessed Addie was to have such beautiful and caring parents in her world. I hope you continue your quest in securing the answers to your questions – and yes, though it cannot take away your pain, your loss – it gains the ‘principle right’ of ensuring it WILL NOT happen to others and corporations have to owe up to what they have produced. Take care and keep posting what info you find.

]]> By: Outsider http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/general/shanghai-daily-late-and-dollar-short/#comment-26612 Outsider Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:25:29 +0000 http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/?p=1182#comment-26612 Optima is a brand OWNED by Doane International Pet Products(formerly North American Pet Products) who is owned by Mars. Doane Pet Care is also owned by Mars but seems to be a private label US domestic operation. OWNERSHIP does not mean it was manufactured by Doane/Mars. Contract manufacturing is common in many industries. Illegal importation of pet food into China is also common. Equally common is for brand owners to choose not to know what happens with their products once they have been sold it to the distributor. What needs to be resolved is 1) Who owns the Optima brand that killed Addie? Mars/Doane denies that it is their product so is it counterfeit? 2) Where was it made - Australia or USA? 3) Did Natural Pet distribute it to China and if so, as a Mars/Doane customer, did Mars/Doane know that Natural Pet distributed Optima (real or counterfeit) to China? Natural Pet's website say they distribute Holistic Recipe. Users of this product should ask if it is sourced from Mars/Doane and/or from the same manufacturer of the Optima that killed Addie. Optima is a brand OWNED by Doane International Pet Products(formerly North American Pet Products) who is owned by Mars. Doane Pet Care is also owned by Mars but seems to be a private label US domestic operation.

OWNERSHIP does not mean it was manufactured by Doane/Mars. Contract manufacturing is common in many industries.

Illegal importation of pet food into China is also common. Equally common is for brand owners to choose not to know what happens with their products once they have been sold it to the distributor.

What needs to be resolved is 1) Who owns the Optima brand that killed Addie? Mars/Doane denies that it is their product so is it counterfeit? 2) Where was it made – Australia or USA? 3) Did Natural Pet distribute it to China and if so, as a Mars/Doane customer, did Mars/Doane know that Natural Pet distributed Optima (real or counterfeit) to China?

Natural Pet’s website say they distribute Holistic Recipe. Users of this product should ask if it is sourced from Mars/Doane and/or from the same manufacturer of the Optima that killed Addie.

]]> By: Insider http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/general/shanghai-daily-late-and-dollar-short/#comment-26606 Insider Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:17:26 +0000 http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/?p=1182#comment-26606 Optima is produced by Doane Pet in the States. The e-mail address @nappinc actually means North American Pet Products Inc., which was acquired by Doane Pet over 10 years ago. Doane Pet acquired NAPP because of its presence in the Asia market, including Taiwan, HK and Japan. Hence it is likely that Shirley is from the office of NAPP in Taiwan. It is not uncommon that petfood is registered as produced in one place but in fact comes from another place. Please bear in mind that because of BSE, it was difficult to register petfood that comes from US. As Australia is free of BSE and Avian Flu, it is very likely that Australia is declared as the place of manufacture where the actual products are imported from US. Those in the market may also remember that Royal Canin that are usually manufactured and imported from France (I guess registered as from France) also turn to their factory in Brazil to supply the products to the China market at the heat of BSE outbreak. Optima is produced by Doane Pet in the States. The e-mail address @nappinc actually means North American Pet Products Inc., which was acquired by Doane Pet over 10 years ago. Doane Pet acquired NAPP because of its presence in the Asia market, including Taiwan, HK and Japan. Hence it is likely that Shirley is from the office of NAPP in Taiwan. It is not uncommon that petfood is registered as produced in one place but in fact comes from another place. Please bear in mind that because of BSE, it was difficult to register petfood that comes from US. As Australia is free of BSE and Avian Flu, it is very likely that Australia is declared as the place of manufacture where the actual products are imported from US. Those in the market may also remember that Royal Canin that are usually manufactured and imported from France (I guess registered as from France) also turn to their factory in Brazil to supply the products to the China market at the heat of BSE outbreak.

]]> By: Chip http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/general/shanghai-daily-late-and-dollar-short/#comment-26604 Chip Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:06:27 +0000 http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/?p=1182#comment-26604 Ryan, Have you emailed chinalawblog about this? Dan might be able to tell you your chances of retribution, and it seems to me you as a customer in china might be successful in suing an American company here, especially as a westerner. Though you are right, any legal result would do nothing to take away the pain of your loss, it might be something to think about. Ryan,

Have you emailed chinalawblog about this? Dan might be able to tell you your chances of retribution, and it seems to me you as a customer in china might be successful in suing an American company here, especially as a westerner.

Though you are right, any legal result would do nothing to take away the pain of your loss, it might be something to think about.

]]> By: YesBiscuit! http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/general/shanghai-daily-late-and-dollar-short/#comment-26603 YesBiscuit! Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:38:27 +0000 http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/?p=1182#comment-26603 I'm sorry for your loss. It's so frustrating when pet food companies seem to be more interested in secrecy and cover-ups than the truth. I hope we learn some answers since other companies may have bought the contaminated corn and made pet food with it. We don't have any way of knowing! I’m sorry for your loss. It’s so frustrating when pet food companies seem to be more interested in secrecy and cover-ups than the truth. I hope we learn some answers since other companies may have bought the contaminated corn and made pet food with it. We don’t have any way of knowing!

]]> By: nick http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/general/shanghai-daily-late-and-dollar-short/#comment-26602 nick Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:36:19 +0000 http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/?p=1182#comment-26602 Eff Em alright! Funny they should be involved as their had their own aflatoxin scandal with their Pedigree brand in Taiwan. They ended up threatening to sue their accusers. Can't see how they are linked to optima though. Eff Em alright!

Funny they should be involved as their had their own aflatoxin scandal with their Pedigree brand in Taiwan. They ended up threatening to sue their accusers. Can’t see how they are linked to optima though.

]]> By: Steven Weathers http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/general/shanghai-daily-late-and-dollar-short/#comment-26599 Steven Weathers Mon, 12 Jan 2009 06:02:58 +0000 http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/?p=1182#comment-26599 So sorry to read about this -- especially your irreplaceable loss. I'm also sorry we all live in an age where apparently, Legal shuts up all the apologies to keep things hush-hush, rather than someone owning up to the fact that poison was in their product. Please keep us updated on what happens. So sorry to read about this — especially your irreplaceable loss. I’m also sorry we all live in an age where apparently, Legal shuts up all the apologies to keep things hush-hush, rather than someone owning up to the fact that poison was in their product. Please keep us updated on what happens.

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